| IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10169] |
Thu, 08 January 2009 08:12  |
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The 2009 IJK will be taking place in Liberec in the Czech Republic between the 18th and 25th of July this summer.
The official website is still a little sketchy on details, but you can find it here. Warning: it's a seriously horrible shade of green 
Whilst it looks like being an exciting event, you might think now is a little far in advance to be thinking about it. Perhaps  Nevertheless, if you think there's a reasonable chance you might want to go, it's worth signing up by the end of this month. The first aliĝperiodo finishes on January 30th, and after that you'll have to pay a little bit more money. Quite how much I'm not entirely sure, because the kotizo is in Czech Krone.
My brief calculations suggest that if you sign up now, you'll pay about 5075CZK (including the kotizo, a bed in the youth hostel and all meals, on the assumption that you're under 29, older and you'll pay more). Based on today's exchange rate, that looks to me like £176 which seems amazingly cheap Of course, by the time we actually get to the IJK the pound may actually equal the Czech Krone...
Anyway like I said, if you want the cheapest rate, sign up before the end of Jan. You need to pay ¤15 in advance, which can be done through the normal horrendous system of UEA-kontoj, or directly by paypal to GEJ.
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10170 is a reply to message #10169 ] |
Thu, 08 January 2009 09:28  |
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| Radio~! wrote on Thu, 08 January 2009 08:12 |
The official website is still a little sketchy on details, but you can find it here. Warning: it's a seriously horrible shade of green
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Ow. Just ow.
Come to think of it, Rolf did once ask me to do a logo for them. I suppose I should've, and done the whole site too. Ow.
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Based on today's exchange rate, that looks to me like £176 which seems amazingly cheap
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£174 xe.com is the best for this kind of stuff. Just select the currencies, tell them how many to convert, click a button, and you've got it
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10173 is a reply to message #10171 ] |
Thu, 08 January 2009 10:17 |
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| Radio~! wrote on Thu, 08 January 2009 09:56 |
Nah, cos you'd have made it blue and someone (I forget who) complained to me that all your websites were blue and they shouldn't be, because that's the colour of Ido 
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Seriously?!
When they say *all* my websites ...
1) Meddysong is a blue and grey scheme,
2) The forums are closer to purple than blue,
3) The IS site *is* blue,
4) RadioClare is a totally different blue on yellow.
Am I not supposed to use the colour blue at all now then?
Better stick with minging *beurk* green then, lest I be accused of conspiring against Zamenhof back in 1907.
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10190 is a reply to message #10169 ] |
Sun, 11 January 2009 13:51 |
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Well, Clare and I are off -- I've just booked our tickets from East Midlands to Prague.
When it comes to booking, I'd advise you guys be wary of RyanAir's dishonest business practices of throwing in hidden charges.
Looking at our receipt, we see that the bastards have added a £20 fee for booking via debit card. This wasn't quoted when I hit the confirm button to make my payment.
They also charge an extra £30 if you have a bag, which cannot weigh over 15kg. So we were hit with an extra £80 on top of the original quoted price of flights plus taxes.
It still worked out at £120 each all in, so that was good, but be prepared to pay twice what you think you're going to on first glance.
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10196 is a reply to message #10175 ] |
Sun, 11 January 2009 18:47 |
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| Radio~! wrote on Thu, 08 January 2009 10:24 |
Yeah, last week at the IS. I genuinely can't remember who.. it might have been Guy but I wouldn't like to say so for sure in case it wasn't. Whoever it was wasn't slagging you off, it was just a comment that the IS website was blue, followed by a comment that actually all your websites seemed to be blue, and then a half-joke that they shouldn't be because that's the colour of Ido.
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Haha, I remember discussing the JES logo with you at the IS and you said one reason it was all blue was to fit in with the website which was going to be based on the IS one, and I mentioned that I've noticed Tim seems to like blue websites. Though it wasn't me that complained about that or mentioned any link with Ido. What the colour of Ido is is not something I'd ever be likely to know or care about
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10198 is a reply to message #10196 ] |
Sun, 11 January 2009 23:47 |
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| Guy Johnston wrote on Sun, 11 January 2009 18:47 |
Haha, I remember discussing the JES logo with you at the IS and you said one reason it was all blue was to fit in with the website which was going to be based on the IS one
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... and also that I needed something that wouldn't look out of place on a snowman. White was a no-brainer. After that, I figured blue to act as the colour, although there were comments from the JES people that it looked too cold, even though it's a snowman!
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10774 is a reply to message #10169 ] |
Wed, 13 May 2009 15:02 |
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I've just checked on the various teams' annual-leave charts and there is scope for me to have the following week off, so you could always enquire.
Whatever cost we would incur would still be less than a conventional holiday we would take otherwise, I'd wager.
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10789 is a reply to message #10169 ] |
Sat, 16 May 2009 23:26 |
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Saluton Tim, Clare, Mikeo kaj aliaj konatuloj kaj konantuloj.
Mi venas nur por diri, ke mi ĉeestos kaj IJK kaj UK ĉijare, kaj antaŭĝuos revidi vin tie.
Mi ekvojaĝos trajne de Bretonio por atingi Liberecon, kaj tre verŝajne reflugos de Varsovio al Parizo post la UK; sed mi ankoraŭ ne planis la vojaĝon inter la du kongresoj. Ĉu vi konscias pri iu ekzistanta aranĝo por tio?
Ĝis baldaŭ!
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10790 is a reply to message #10789 ] |
Sun, 17 May 2009 09:55 |
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Saluton
Laŭ la retpaĝaro de la IJK, oni organizos karavanon inter la du kongresoj. Tamen ankoraŭ estas neniaj detaloj, do mi skribis mesaĝon al ili hieraŭ por demandi kiam detaloj aperos. Se oni organizos aŭtobuson, ekzemple, estus bona ideo partopreni la karavanon.
Detaloj pri polaj trajnoj troviĝas ĉi tie:
http://www.polrail.com/sections/travel/timetable.html
La vojaĝo inter Liberec kaj Bialystok daŭras preskaŭ 14 horojn. Oni povas forlasi Liberec je 6.02 kaj alveni en Bialystok je 19.55, aŭ forlasi Liberec je 8.02 kaj alveni en Bialystok je 21.55.
Neniuj el tiuj vojaĝebloj plaĉas al mi. Pasintjare mi organizis la trajnojn por la hejmvojaĝo tiel ke mi kaj Tim devis entrajniĝi je 06.30. Se ni ne farus tion, ni maltrafus nian flugon, tamen ni ne volis maltrafi la finan nokton de la IJK, do enlitiĝis je 4.30 kaj povis dormi dum nur 1 horo. Poste mi kompreneble ekdormis en la trajno, sed ĉar mi ankoraŭ estis iomete ebria, mi dormis tre profunda kaj kiam ni alvenis ĉe la aŭstra landlimo estis problemo ĉar la kontrolisto volis vidi niajn biletojn, kiuj troviĝis en mia sako, sed Tim apenaŭ povis veki min 
Mallonge, mi ne volas la saman sperton ankaŭ ĉi-jare, do mi volas eviti organizi frumatenan ekvojaĝon, se mi povas.
Bonvolu noti ke parto de la superaj trajnvojaĝoj estas per Eurocity-trajno. Sur tiuj trajnoj oni *devas* reservi bileton antaŭe.
Tim kaj mi nun pripensas, ĉu veturi per Eurolines. Ni eksciis nur antaŭ du tagoj ke ni povas partopreni la UK-on (antaŭe mi kredis ke mi devas labori tiun semajnon) kaj ni intencis pasigi la semajnfinon en Prago antaŭ ol flugi hejmen. Eblas ke ni ankoraŭ pasigu la sabaton en Prago, kaj dimanĉon vespere je 21.00 ekveturas aŭtobuso al Varsovio el Prago. En Varsovio ĝi alvenas je la sesa lundon matene, kaj de Varsovio estas sufiĉe mallonga trajnvojaĝo al Bialystok. Kaj Eurolines estas tute malmultekosta
La alia eblo estas flugi inter Prago kaj Varsovio. Mi ĵus kontrolis tion kaj eblas per Polish Airlines Lot por ĉirkaŭ £107.
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10800 is a reply to message #10169 ] |
Mon, 18 May 2009 10:04 |
timsk
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Laŭ mesaĝo de UEA, la reta aliĝilo ja laŭplane ne plu funkcias... sed ili ankoraŭ akceptas paperajn aliĝilojn. Mi telefonos nun por ĝentile demandi laŭ kiu logiko tio ŝajnis esti bona ideo.
Cetere, ĉu iu volas dividi 2-litan ĉambron kun mi en hotelo kun senpaga WiFi je 2km for de la kongresejo? Ĝi kostas po ¤47 persone nokte. Bv respondi rapide, mi petas.
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10888 is a reply to message #10887 ] |
Tue, 16 June 2009 15:17 |
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| Radio~! wrote on Tue, 16 June 2009 12:53 |
perhaps 5 or 6pm would be a good time to arrive?
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Perfect
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10891 is a reply to message #10890 ] |
Wed, 17 June 2009 15:17 |
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| Radio~! wrote on Wed, 17 June 2009 12:12 |
It would have come through from a Czech address, with a title along the lines of "Elektronicky listek" - either forward it to me or pdf it
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Oh oh.
I've started getting a tonne of spam in my inbox. I have a recollection of marking as spam something that may have been in Czech.
Bollocks
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10893 is a reply to message #10892 ] |
Wed, 17 June 2009 17:51 |
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Problem averted; it's in my spam box
| Radio~! wrote on Wed, 17 June 2009 15:40 |
I should of
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Something like that could cost you 100% in an exam
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10896 is a reply to message #10895 ] |
Thu, 18 June 2009 19:41 |
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Right, now prepared to be shocked ... I'm going to the IJK! 
Or at least, I might be going - I've decided to try and book the time off work with the intention of going to Liberec, which suits me fine as I can go before my mum and her b/f go off to Turkey and leave me at home with the cats. No certainty yet, but it shouldn't be a problem. I would be flying out on the Sunday, though, as I have to be at a concert in Congleton the night before - especially as one of the pieces that will be performed was written by me!
Anyway, from the above posts about Ryanair, I think I'll be avoiding them and going with Swissair instead (after looking at Opodo) ... here's hoping Zürich Airport doesn't tend to lose luggage between connecting flights.
Let's have a gay-off! Ready?! Lips pursed, hands on the table and GO!
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10897 is a reply to message #10895 ] |
Fri, 19 June 2009 08:53 |
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| Radio~! wrote on Thu, 18 June 2009 16:26 |
They said I could... if I was prepared to pay the administration fee... and they don't refund the air fare, or the airport tax, or the Ryanair charges... only the government tax. Which is scarcely worth getting back so in the end I didn't bother
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These guys are total scumbags.
I hope they go out of business and that the people who make these policies lose every penny they ever made.
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10911 is a reply to message #10909 ] |
Wed, 24 June 2009 10:59 |
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It's excellent that so many of you can go! I'm possibly going to go via strasbourg, meeting some Esperantists there. I will know by Saturday and keep you informed.
Perhaps I will have to use the pasporta servo ... but I am a bit unsure about it (I read the thread on it in here).
I hope to see you all there and hope that you experience no more problems!
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10913 is a reply to message #10911 ] |
Wed, 24 June 2009 11:12 |
timsk
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| Jake wrote: |
I'm possibly going to go via strasbourg, meeting some Esperantists there. I will know by Saturday and keep you informed.
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See you there if so! I'm meeting the karavano in Strasbourg at something like 5am on Saturday 18th.
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Perhaps I will have to use the pasporta servo ... but I am a bit unsure about it (I read the thread on it in here). I hope to see you all there and hope that you experience no more problems!
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I've used the Pasporta Servo around a dozen times, and had people to stay at my place too, and each time I'd describe the experience as somewhere between "perfectly acceptable, if not that exciting" and "bloody excellent".  Yes, of course there's a risk involved in going to someone's house or accepting a visitor to yours, but there's a risk involved in just about everything you do every day of your life; the key is learning to handle and manage the risk, and what better way to do that than to take a small risk now and then? The risk is really quite small, within the rarified atmostphere of Esperantio.
Enjoy!
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10915 is a reply to message #10913 ] |
Wed, 24 June 2009 11:53 |
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Excellent! How are you getting there, then? I was thinking of going on a coach from London at around two to get there at 0$:45 on the 18th.
Do you think that is risky? If the coach is delayed, would I be able to get to Strasbourg alone?
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10917 is a reply to message #10915 ] |
Wed, 24 June 2009 12:35 |
timsk
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| Jake wrote: |
Excellent! How are you getting there, then? I was thinking of going on a coach from London at around two to get there at 0$:45 on the 18th.
Do you think that is risky?
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Assuming you mean 04:45, that sounds like a very tight connection, given that we're supposed to be meeting at 5am. I'd take an earlier one in your position, but it's up to you obviously.
I suppose it comes down to whether you'd be happy to find your own way to Liberec if you miss the rendez-vous. If you're confident that you'd find your way, or blag your way out of the consequences if you didn't (!) then make the connections as short as you like. If you want to be certain of travelling with the group, for the security and/or fun of it, then allow time for getting lost, missing coaches, getting stuck in traffic, etc.
As for me, I'll actually be in France already, so I'm getting the TGV over to Strasbourg and meeting everyone from there.
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| Re: IJK 2009 - Liberec [message #10918 is a reply to message #10917 ] |
Wed, 24 June 2009 13:40 |
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hmm, I doubt that I could blag my way through France and I defntely couldn't in the Czech republic (although I'm trying (and struggling) to learn survival Czech. Do you know whether there is a return journey back to Strasbourg in the caravan? It looks a lot easier to get back to the UK. Yes, I did mean 4.45 in the morning 
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