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| JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11617] |
Sun, 29 November 2009 21:13  |
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I know this might sound ridiculously early given that we've still got a month to Christmas, but last night we started thinking about the next JEB meeting. For the past couple of years, we've organised a meeting sometime in February (last year I think it was in Nottingham, the year before was Peterborough) and I would propose that we do the same again this year. I know we've been talking about organising a theme park trip and I would still suggest that we do that, but obviously at some point after the BK when the attractions are open again 
In terms of location, last night we were brainstorming the idea of Cardiff. There seems to be a thriving Esperanto group there, led by Heather Eason who some of you may have met in Salisbury last year (she counted the votes at the AGM). Forum members Franko and Hauxxkins both attend the group, so we thought that if we could arrange to gatecrash one of their meetings, rather like we did in Nottingham last year, it would be a great opportunity to meet up with them 
Cardiff isn't terribly difficult to get to for those of us who live in the Midlands, and we may even be able to entice our other Welshman Damon into coming along 
So, first thing I wanted to check was whether people would be in favour of this idea in general, and therefore whether I have permission to contact Heather on our behalf and see what she thinks.
Secondly, regardless of location I thought we might as well start compiling a list of weekends in the New Year which we definitely can't do. I already know, for example, that I can't do Saturday 13th February as I have an EAB Mancom meeting in London, and neither Tim nor I can do 20th/21st February either as Derek has invited us to a (non-Esperanto) event at Barlaston.
I appreciate that we can't all say for sure what we're going to be doing on every weekend in February at this stage, but there's no harm in starting to develop a vague idea of the weekends which might be possible.
Let me know your thoughts
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11633 is a reply to message #11617 ] |
Mon, 30 November 2009 15:50   |
bpeel Messages: 16 Registered: November 2009 |
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My vote would be for Cardiff too. I've been wanting to go for a while since the BBC have been glamorizing it with Gavin and Stacey and Torchwoord
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11635 is a reply to message #11617 ] |
Mon, 30 November 2009 22:18   |
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kalvupo Messages: 654 Registered: September 2007 Location: UK |
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Maybe I've overrated the anti-Englishness, which is perhaps only relevant for people going to live there rather than daytrippers.
It would be fun to stand next to the "Torchwood Tower", eh bpeel
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11636 is a reply to message #11617 ] |
Tue, 01 December 2009 10:46   |
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I'd be very happy for it to be Cardiff.
We need to go out to the provinces. It's inconvenient, but we can't adopt the approach of making every meet-up reachable for some, because others would never be in with a shout.
The Cardiff club is coming back to life. A helping hand/endorsement by virtue of having the national group's youth wing pop by for a visit could be nice to them.
Besides, two jebanoj who have never been to meet-ups (Frank and Rob) are members, so it would be only fair to make Jeb more accessible to them.
Cardiff gets my vote.
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11640 is a reply to message #11617 ] |
Tue, 01 December 2009 14:05   |
Heather Messages: 22 Registered: December 2009 Location: Cardiff |
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Hello ge-JEB-anoj
Don't worry - I'm not going to gatecrash your forum (too old for JEB now) but just to say that if you make it to Cardiff in February, I and the other Cardiff Esperantists will be very pleased to see you.
A few points that might be useful to you as you discuss this:
Bear in mind that there are Rugby Internationals in Cardiff on 13 Feb and 26 Feb 2010.
Good atmosphere in town on those days, but very crowded and it tends to mess up all the public transport and fill up the hotels.
I see that some of you might be considering staying overnight - Cardiff has two Travelodges (one in the centre of town and one in the Bay - near the Torchwood tower) that both currently have offers on at present. You'd need to book soon though, because they tend to fill up quickly. This might also influence your choice of date - the end of the month is dearer as it's half-term here.
If you go for a B&B, try any with addresses in Cathedral Road. I'd steer a bit clear of any in Newport Road (these tend to be the 'residential' B&Bs rather than the tourism ones).
On things to see:
Plenty of Dr Who and Torchwood sights. There's a Dr Who exhibition in Cardiff Bay and lots of Torchwood landmarks. (Though, whoever wants to stand by the Torchwood Tower for a photo in February may well freeze).
No theme parks near here, but we apparently have the biggest shopping centre in Wales You might be interested in the Museum of Welsh Life - a bus ride from the city centre, but free to get in. (It's where they've rebuilt lots of old buildings from around Wales - best if you're interested in Welsh history or like twee cottages...) http://www.museumwales.ac.uk/en/stfagans/
Happy to do you a tour around Cardiff Bay's Torchwood sites and/or get you in to have a look at the Welsh Assembly (a building which I can't stand, but which is supposed to be iconic).
Obviously, plenty of pubs, restaurants etc everywhere.
Happy for you to let me know if you want any specific information about anything. Would be good to show you some of the sights of South Wales before we head north to Llandudno for the BK in May.
And for those who haven't seen them, there are some (quite embarassing) pictures of the last time JEB came to Cardiff (1989) at: http://picasaweb.google.com/Eriketo69/JunularoEsperantistaBr ita#
Bondeziras
Heather
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11642 is a reply to message #11641 ] |
Tue, 01 December 2009 16:05   |
Heather Messages: 22 Registered: December 2009 Location: Cardiff |
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Hmmm - annoying about the Cardiff Central Travelodge. Despite appearances, they do often have £9 and £19 offers as I often use them for friends coming to stay as it's very near the central station. That said, there are frequent large events on in Cardiff and it's one of the nearest hotels, so they can probably profit from that. Might be worth looking again sometime, as I've noticed that Travelodge prices change quite frequently dependent on their bookings (or lack thereof).
There are good bus services between the city centre and the Bay (every 10 minutes on Saturdays, less frequently on Sundays) so accommodation there isn't too off the beaten track.
There is also the Riverhouse Backpackers - a 4-star hostel right by the River Taff and opposite the Millennium Stadium http://www.riverhousebackpackers.com/ They have quite a good reputation and have a variety of sizes of room including private doubles/twins I think.
There's also the Cardiff Backpacker Nos Da hostel - run by the same people I think - http://www.hostelworld.com/availability.php/NosDa-Studio-Hos tel/Cardiff/29372 (Actually, can't work out which website belongs to which hostel at the moment, but you get the idea...)
If I have any other good ideas I'll let you know.
(By the way, if you live in Cardiff, it's the law to watch Torchwood )
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11643 is a reply to message #11642 ] |
Tue, 01 December 2009 16:23   |
Heather Messages: 22 Registered: December 2009 Location: Cardiff |
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Ah - just remembered that there's also an Etap - not far from city centre. I've just checked their websites and they currently have £37 rooms for every weekend in Feb except Rugby Day on the 13th when they're sold out.
V. small rooms there usually, but adequate.
There's also accommodation within the Urdd centre at the Millennium Centre in Cardiff Bay (the Urdd is the weird Welsh youth cultural org.) http://www.urdd.org/caerdydd/index.php?lng=en They might be able to give you a group booking.
Cardiff University also has guest rooms. The choice is more limited during term-time, but might be worth a look, contact on: 029 2087 5117
That's all I can think of!
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11645 is a reply to message #11617 ] |
Wed, 02 December 2009 12:28   |
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kalvupo Messages: 654 Registered: September 2007 Location: UK |
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A cautionary word re Torchwood. I watched most of the first series, and quite early in the first episode, there was a shocking scene that made me feel faint, from which I had to look away. So, if you're squeamish, you might want to skip that one.
I think I'll recommend the "Cyberwoman" episode, if only for the novelty of an explicity female version of a Cyberman.
(And if you're into "universal love", you'll like Torchwood, because if I remember rightly, everyone has sex with everyone else.)
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11646 is a reply to message #11645 ] |
Wed, 02 December 2009 12:38   |
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| kalvupo wrote on Wed, 02 December 2009 12:28 | A cautionary word re Torchwood. I watched most of the first series, and quite early in the first episode, there was a shocking scene that made me feel faint, from which I had to look away. So, if you're squeamish, you might want to skip that one.
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Okay, I'm highly squeamish so perhaps I don't want to watch it after all!
| Quote: | (And if you're into "universal love", you'll like Torchwood, because if I remember rightly, everyone has sex with everyone else.)
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What makes you think I'm into "universal love"?!
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11648 is a reply to message #11646 ] |
Wed, 02 December 2009 13:35   |
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kalvupo Messages: 654 Registered: September 2007 Location: UK |
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Grr, in that case I got my viewing the wrong way round...
| Radio~! wrote on Wed, 02 December 2009 12:38 | What makes you think I'm into "universal love"?! 
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Sorry Rad, by "you" I meant "one", not you personally.
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11662 is a reply to message #11617 ] |
Mon, 07 December 2009 18:16   |
Jake Messages: 139 Registered: June 2009 Location: Ashford en Kent / Durham ... |
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Saluton gekaraj! Mi kredis ke mi jam skribis mesaĝon hodiaŭ
matene, sed ŝajne mi iel fuŝis kaj ĝi ne aperis. Ne gravas.
Nu, mi volis diri ke mi ja ŝategus vin ĉiujn renkonti Kardife 
Nature dependos de vetureblecoj kaj de mono. Tamen, estante
studento, mi espereble povos liberigi ajnan semajnfinon Febuare
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Ŝategus mi la okazon paroli nian belan lingvon kaj renkontiĝi
denove kun la mojosa JEBanaro!
Ŝajnas ke estos kelkaj diskutoj varmegemociaj pri lingvoj 
Mi vere ne devus taksi monon kiel kialon, ne iri, post la
pasinta kunveno eksciinte, ke mi neniun monon havis (kiel diri
overdraft esperante ... ) kaj dum la dua trimonato de
universitato, mi havos pli da mono ol dum la unua. Do, espereble
venos mi, la Ĝejko.
Mi ne pensas ke mi kapablas/ devus partopreni en la supra
debato, do mi diros 'la homaro estas la mezuro de ĉiuj aferoj,
kaj diversaj homoj havas diversajn mezurilojn'.
Do, mi espereble antaŭĝojas babili kun vi en Kardifo kaj
antaŭe pardonpetas pro malbelaj lingvaj eraroj en ĉi tiu
teksto.
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11669 is a reply to message #11668 ] |
Tue, 08 December 2009 12:45   |
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| Radio~! wrote on Tue, 08 December 2009 12:09 | This is all very interesting but it's taking us a long way away from the most important question, which is "which weekend are we going to meet up?"
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Heh, tactful
To be fair, we have Esper-Britted this thread a little bit. I hope the new people don't think we're EB's reincarnation, and flee 
| Quote: | Are there any objections? 
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Not from me
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11670 is a reply to message #11617 ] |
Tue, 08 December 2009 13:21   |
Hauxkins Messages: 62 Registered: July 2009 Location: Cardiff |
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Ofte mi pensas ke mi devus komputili malplie, por iri eksteren kaj vere vivi, sed kiam mi tion faras, mi maltrafas grandegan fadenon pri renkontiĝo ĉe mia hejmurbo! Haha.
Iukaze, ŝajnas ke mi vin ĉiujn vidos je la ses-a de Februaro (kiu estas du tagoj antaŭ mia naskiĝtagon. Donaĵoj ne bezonataj ). Mi ne povas aldoni multe al tio, kiun jam diris, tamen mi havas plian proponon pri gastloĝejoj. La "Park Plaza" gastloĝejo estas kutime iom multekosta, sed ofte ĝi havas malmultekostajn ĉambrojn, kiuj troviĝas per retejoj kiel "lastminute.com". Ĝi estas tre centra, tre agrabla hotelo.
La kimra lingvo sonas al mi kiel pli bela Germana. Estas multe de malsamaj Kimraj akcentoj, pro la transloĝantoj, kiuj ekloĝis ĉi-tie estintece.
Kvankam mi kreskiĝis ĉe Kimrujo, mi apenaŭ komprenas la lingvon (ne estas bezonata por ĉiuj, krom por iaj laboroj), sed mi konas kiel prononci ĝin!
Do, jen mia Kimra - Esperanta prononc-gvidilo:
Ll - Ĥl
Dd - Kiel la angla "th". Kiel oni skribus tiun esperante?
Rh - Hr
Ch - Ĥĥ
W - U
F - V
Y - Kiel la angla "uh". Denove, mi ne certas kiel oni skribas tiun Esperante.
Ff - F
U - I
Do, oni dirus "Llandudno" kiel "Ĥlandidno". Simple, ne? Haha.
Ĝis venont-jare, gemojosuloj!
Rob (iom Angla, iom Kimra, iom Esperanta)
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11678 is a reply to message #11670 ] |
Wed, 09 December 2009 14:08   |
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Okay, cool: as there have been no objections, Saturday 6th February is officially the date of the meeting 
I will email around the membership and/or put a post on the JEBsite this evening. If I have time, as this is second in priority to decorating my Christmas tree 
Dankon pro la konsiloj pri kimra prononcado, Rob
Al la ĝenerala diskuto pri la kimra lingvo kaj ĉu indas ĝin lerni, mi volas aldoni ke, pro tio ke ni ĉiam feriumis en norda kimrio kiam mi estis infano, mia patro iam eklernis la kimran kaj progresis ĝis sufiĉe bona nivelo, je kiu li povis legi simplajn librojn. Li ne tre ofte havis la eblon uzi sian lingvoscion, sed kelkfoje tio ja utilas. Homoj kiuj klare malŝatas anglojn ofte fariĝis malpli malĝentilaj post kelkaj vortoj en la kimra.
Sed se ni intencas pludiskuti ĉi tiun temon, mi vere kredas ke ĝi bezonas sian propran fadenon, por ke ĉi tiu fadeno temu nur pri demandoj kaj informoj pri la venonta renkontiĝo.
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11680 is a reply to message #11670 ] |
Thu, 10 December 2009 11:12   |
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| Haŭkins wrote on Tue, 08 December 2009 13:21 | Dd - Kiel la angla "th". Kiel oni skribus tiun esperante?
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Oni nur povas diri "la angla 'th'".
Fonetike, temas pri aŭ þ (thorn, as in the) aŭ ð (eth, as in thick).
Sendube tio gajnas la premion por plej malbela sono! 
| Quote: | Y - Kiel la angla "uh". Denove, mi ne certas kiel oni skribas tiun Esperante.
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Denove, vi jam faras Devas esti iu fonetika simbolo, sed kiun mi ne scias.
Kiu bone klarigas kial ĵurnalistoj kiuj primokis la literumadon de la nomo de Ffion Jenkins (edzino de William Hague) tiel stultas.
Dankon pro la helpgvido, Rob
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11681 is a reply to message #11617 ] |
Thu, 10 December 2009 11:14   |
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I've split this thread to keep all the relevant content here.
The chat about the Welsh language and whether Bobby was unfair in what he said is now here.
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11684 is a reply to message #11617 ] |
Thu, 10 December 2009 11:57   |
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Ye in the sense of "Ye olde England", yup. (There was another ye which eventually gave way to its own object form you.)
I love trivia like this
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11810 is a reply to message #11808 ] |
Thu, 31 December 2009 12:16   |
bpeel Messages: 16 Registered: November 2009 |
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Mi kaj Paul mendis biletojn por la samaj trajnoj kiel Marteno. Espere ni povos kunsidi.
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11811 is a reply to message #11617 ] |
Thu, 31 December 2009 13:20   |
Hauxkins Messages: 62 Registered: July 2009 Location: Cardiff |
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Kion vi ĉiuj volas fari en Kardifo? Ĉu vi volas koni kien bonas por renkontiĝi matene/tagmeze?
Mi neniam antaǔe ĉeestis JEB renkontiĝon. Ĉu JEBanoj kutime nur trikas ĉe renkontiĝoj, aǔ ni spektu la vidindejojn ankaǔ? Mi sentas min devigate helpi, ĉar mi loĝas Kardife!
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11812 is a reply to message #11811 ] |
Fri, 01 January 2010 18:04   |
amelia Messages: 6 Registered: December 2009 |
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Do you have to sign up anywhere if you want to be part of this meetup? or do you just turn up?
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| Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11816 is a reply to message #11810 ] |
Sat, 02 January 2010 21:00   |
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Marteno Messages: 190 Registered: May 2007 Location: Wembley, District HA9 |
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| bpeel wrote on Thu, 31 December 2009 12:16 | Mi kaj Paul mendis biletojn por la samaj trajnoj kiel Marteno. Espere ni povos kunsidi.
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Bonege Se ankaŭ Magnus, Saŝa kaj Karlos (nova ulo veninta antaŭnelonge) kuniros (je kio mi tre esperas), eble nia LEJO-kunsido eĉ estos kvoruma (bv. kontroli en la Statuto) 
Serioze: laŭ la konfirmilo miaj vagono estas B kaj seĝo 80. Sed mi ja pretos trairi la tutan trajnon por trovi vin!
| Haŭkins: | Kion vi ĉiuj volas fari en Kardifo? Ĉu vi volas koni kien bonas por renkontiĝi matene/tagmeze?
Mi neniam antaǔe ĉeestis JEB renkontiĝon. Ĉu JEBanoj kutime nur trikas ĉe renkontiĝoj, aǔ ni spektu la vidindejojn ankaǔ? Mi sentas min devigate helpi, ĉar mi loĝas Kardife!
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Kutime ni iom longe sidas en la drinkejo/manĝejo, kaj precipe tagmanĝas (ĉar homoj ekvenas antaŭ aŭ ĉirkaŭ la tagmezo) -- sed triki mi ankoraŭ neniun vidis 
Ĉar homoj venados malsamtempe, estos oportune renkontiĝi en iu drinkejo/manĝejo. Tio ofte estas Wetherspoons, sed ne nepre devas esti. Via konsilo estas tre bonvena!
Post la tagmanĝo, estos tre interese vidi lokajn vidindaĵojn, ĉar ekz. por mi estos la unua vizito al Kardifo (kaj fakte entute al Kimrujo)! Ni jam renkontiĝis en lokoj kie estis neniuj lokuloj, sed havi helpon de lokuloj ja estas multe pli bone kaj donas al la renkontiĝo, por diri tiel, tute alian dimension 
| amelia: | Do you have to sign up anywhere if you want to be part of this meetup? or do you just turn up?
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You definitely can just turn up, although it is a good idea to say when about, so that we have an idea about how many people are coming and when to expect you.
Be sure to follow this thread as the exact meeting point is yet to be arranged. Welcome
Esperantisto estas nomata ĉiu persono kiu scias kaj uzas la lingvon Esperanto, tute egale por kiaj celoj ŝli ĝin uzas.
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