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JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11617] Sun, 29 November 2009 21:13 Go to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

I know this might sound ridiculously early given that we've still got a month to Christmas, but last night we started thinking about the next JEB meeting. For the past couple of years, we've organised a meeting sometime in February (last year I think it was in Nottingham, the year before was Peterborough) and I would propose that we do the same again this year. I know we've been talking about organising a theme park trip and I would still suggest that we do that, but obviously at some point after the BK when the attractions are open again Cute Smile

In terms of location, last night we were brainstorming the idea of Cardiff. There seems to be a thriving Esperanto group there, led by Heather Eason who some of you may have met in Salisbury last year (she counted the votes at the AGM). Forum members Franko and Hauxxkins both attend the group, so we thought that if we could arrange to gatecrash one of their meetings, rather like we did in Nottingham last year, it would be a great opportunity to meet up with them Cute Smile

Cardiff isn't terribly difficult to get to for those of us who live in the Midlands, and we may even be able to entice our other Welshman Damon into coming along Cute Smile

So, first thing I wanted to check was whether people would be in favour of this idea in general, and therefore whether I have permission to contact Heather on our behalf and see what she thinks.

Secondly, regardless of location I thought we might as well start compiling a list of weekends in the New Year which we definitely can't do. I already know, for example, that I can't do Saturday 13th February as I have an EAB Mancom meeting in London, and neither Tim nor I can do 20th/21st February either as Derek has invited us to a (non-Esperanto) event at Barlaston.

I appreciate that we can't all say for sure what we're going to be doing on every weekend in February at this stage, but there's no harm in starting to develop a vague idea of the weekends which might be possible.

Let me know your thoughts Cute Smile


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11620 is a reply to message #11617 ] Mon, 30 November 2009 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cardiff sounds nice to me; we have friends there we visit on the way to Oakwood every year.

Coincidentally we can't do those two weekends either. Clinical staff such as my other half have to plan months in advance too. He's on call on the 13th and working on the 20th. We might be able to swap them as we've got a few months notice, but as far as I can see 6/7 and 27/28 are fine for us.

He's now got up to the accusative on "Bildoj kaj Demandoj" so doing very well!


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11624 is a reply to message #11620 ] Mon, 30 November 2009 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

I've only ever been to Cardiff once but it seemed really nice and if we do organise something there I might try to bully Tim into making a long weekend of it Cute Smile

The other advantage of choosing a date three months in advance is that it gives people who don't drive chance to book the cheapest train fares. I really enjoyed the train journey when I went actually - it was really pretty Cute Smile

If anyone has objections to this idea though and would like to propose a more suitable destination, please let me know. Silence is likely to be taken as consent tong


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11625 is a reply to message #11617 ] Mon, 30 November 2009 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fair enough~!
Radio~! wrote on Sun, 29 November 2009 21:13

Cardiff isn't terribly difficult to get to for those of us who live in the Midlands

It's well over three hours by train each way for me, which to be honest is probably further than I'd be prepared to go for the day. Maybe it would be worth considering going somewhere that's reasonably easy to reach from both directions - in terms of rail connections the best is probably Gloucester.

Radio~! wrote on Sun, 29 November 2009 21:13

Secondly, regardless of location I thought we might as well start compiling a list of weekends in the New Year which we definitely can't do.


I've absolutely no idea as of yet, but February would be better for me as I have exams in January.
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11626 is a reply to message #11624 ] Mon, 30 November 2009 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gives me a chance to practice my Welsh for the UK Congress. Although about all I can manage is "blae maer toileddau merchedd" and "pescodau y scloddion". Apologies for spelling. As far as I am aware, those mean "Where are the ladies' toilets" and "fish and chips". Smile


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11627 is a reply to message #11625 ] Mon, 30 November 2009 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

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It's well over three hours by train each way for me, which to be honest is probably further than I'd be prepared to go for the day.


Would it be quicker to drive or would that work out too expensive? It would be about three hours for us on the train as well, with a change at Birmingham.

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Maybe it would be worth considering going somewhere that's reasonably easy to reach from both directions - in terms of rail connections the best is probably Gloucester.


I guess we could consider that. I just thought it would be nice to go to Wales seeing as there's the congress later in the year so it seems kinda topical (Tim and I have already bought our Esperanto - Welsh dictionary!). Also with there being the local group there, I was hoping we could do what we did at Nottingham and get other people (like Heather) along who aren't necessarily of JEB age but are nevertheless well worth meeting Cute Smile

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I've absolutely no idea as of yet, but February would be better for me as I have exams in January.



I think we might as well rule January out - Tim has exams too, I've got to go to Germany with work and some of us will be at Ni Festivalu one weekend anyway.


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11628 is a reply to message #11627 ] Mon, 30 November 2009 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you're along the M4 corridor a lift may be feasible.


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11630 is a reply to message #11617 ] Mon, 30 November 2009 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

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Are there any prominent theme parks in Cardiff? The first thing that popped into my head on seeing the location was Doctor Who!


Not that I'm aware of. I think I'll organise a separate theme park meeting later in the Spring. We'll need to check when the theme parks open again and then choose a date when we think it's less likely to be busy (eg. not during a school holiday!).

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I see some of you have mentioned saying things in Welsh over there. My advice is: don't waste your time. Welsh is spoken by very few people, is an ugly language IMO, and to top it all off, a large section of the Welsh-speaking community have a petty anti-English attitude (cf. some Scots) which quite frankly I can't be bothered with.


I don't think anyone was seriously suggesting that they would need to speak Welsh in Cardiff Cute Smile I just always enjoy going to Wales and seeing the all the strange words on the road signs, and Tim and I bought our Esperanto-Welsh dictionary more for novelty value than anything else when we were at Barlaston recently. We always used to go on holiday in north Wales when I was a kid, and whilst there were some people who were a bit hostile, the vast majority of people we met were very nice. And with the benefit of hindsight, I can understand the attitudes of some of the less friendly people; if I lived near a beautiful beach, I'd probably resent having it invaded by a thousands of really common people from the West Midlands every summer too!


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11632 is a reply to message #11630 ] Mon, 30 November 2009 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's a cracking theme park in Wales called Oakwood - it's a way away from Cardiff though (right in the piggy's nose, if you can picture that). I doubt it's open in February either.


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11633 is a reply to message #11617 ] Mon, 30 November 2009 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My vote would be for Cardiff too. I've been wanting to go for a while since the BBC have been glamorizing it with Gavin and Stacey and Torchwoord Cute Smile
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11635 is a reply to message #11617 ] Mon, 30 November 2009 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe I've overrated the anti-Englishness, which is perhaps only relevant for people going to live there rather than daytrippers.

It would be fun to stand next to the "Torchwood Tower", eh bpeel Smile
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11636 is a reply to message #11617 ] Tue, 01 December 2009 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd be very happy for it to be Cardiff.

We need to go out to the provinces. It's inconvenient, but we can't adopt the approach of making every meet-up reachable for some, because others would never be in with a shout.

The Cardiff club is coming back to life. A helping hand/endorsement by virtue of having the national group's youth wing pop by for a visit could be nice to them.

Besides, two jebanoj who have never been to meet-ups (Frank and Rob) are members, so it would be only fair to make Jeb more accessible to them.

Cardiff gets my vote.
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11638 is a reply to message #11636 ] Tue, 01 December 2009 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is often possible to get group discounts at B&Bs or similar, so if we got a group of us staying overnight we might get a nice deal.


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11639 is a reply to message #11638 ] Tue, 01 December 2009 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

I've never managed to get enough JEBanoj together in one place to get a discount before, but you never know your luck Cute Smile

If Tim and I decide to stop over I will post any promising accommodation details I find, but in general we've found these things work better if everyone books their own, because that way we don't have to mess about with who owes who what money Cute Smile


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11640 is a reply to message #11617 ] Tue, 01 December 2009 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello ge-JEB-anoj

Don't worry - I'm not going to gatecrash your forum (too old for JEB now) but just to say that if you make it to Cardiff in February, I and the other Cardiff Esperantists will be very pleased to see you.

A few points that might be useful to you as you discuss this:

Bear in mind that there are Rugby Internationals in Cardiff on 13 Feb and 26 Feb 2010.

Good atmosphere in town on those days, but very crowded and it tends to mess up all the public transport and fill up the hotels.

I see that some of you might be considering staying overnight - Cardiff has two Travelodges (one in the centre of town and one in the Bay - near the Torchwood tower) that both currently have offers on at present. You'd need to book soon though, because they tend to fill up quickly. This might also influence your choice of date - the end of the month is dearer as it's half-term here.

If you go for a B&B, try any with addresses in Cathedral Road. I'd steer a bit clear of any in Newport Road (these tend to be the 'residential' B&Bs rather than the tourism ones).

On things to see:

Plenty of Dr Who and Torchwood sights. There's a Dr Who exhibition in Cardiff Bay and lots of Torchwood landmarks. (Though, whoever wants to stand by the Torchwood Tower for a photo in February may well freeze).

No theme parks near here, but we apparently have the biggest shopping centre in Wales Smile You might be interested in the Museum of Welsh Life - a bus ride from the city centre, but free to get in. (It's where they've rebuilt lots of old buildings from around Wales - best if you're interested in Welsh history or like twee cottages...) http://www.museumwales.ac.uk/en/stfagans/

Happy to do you a tour around Cardiff Bay's Torchwood sites and/or get you in to have a look at the Welsh Assembly (a building which I can't stand, but which is supposed to be iconic).

Obviously, plenty of pubs, restaurants etc everywhere.

Happy for you to let me know if you want any specific information about anything. Would be good to show you some of the sights of South Wales before we head north to Llandudno for the BK in May.

And for those who haven't seen them, there are some (quite embarassing) pictures of the last time JEB came to Cardiff (1989) at: http://picasaweb.google.com/Eriketo69/JunularoEsperantistaBr ita#

Bondeziras

Heather

Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11641 is a reply to message #11640 ] Tue, 01 December 2009 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

Thanks for all that info, Heather Cute Smile It would never have occurred to me to think about possible rugby matches, so that's good to know!

The Cardiff Central Travelodge has the most expensive Travelodge prices I've ever seen in my life! I'd expect to stay in a Hilton for that! Shocked The one in the bay looks a bit cheaper though, so that might be the better bet.

I'm afraid Torchwood means nothing to me as I've never watched that or Doctor Who Blush 2


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11642 is a reply to message #11641 ] Tue, 01 December 2009 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmmm - annoying about the Cardiff Central Travelodge. Despite appearances, they do often have £9 and £19 offers as I often use them for friends coming to stay as it's very near the central station. That said, there are frequent large events on in Cardiff and it's one of the nearest hotels, so they can probably profit from that. Might be worth looking again sometime, as I've noticed that Travelodge prices change quite frequently dependent on their bookings (or lack thereof).

There are good bus services between the city centre and the Bay (every 10 minutes on Saturdays, less frequently on Sundays) so accommodation there isn't too off the beaten track.

There is also the Riverhouse Backpackers - a 4-star hostel right by the River Taff and opposite the Millennium Stadium http://www.riverhousebackpackers.com/ They have quite a good reputation and have a variety of sizes of room including private doubles/twins I think.

There's also the Cardiff Backpacker Nos Da hostel - run by the same people I think - http://www.hostelworld.com/availability.php/NosDa-Studio-Hos tel/Cardiff/29372 (Actually, can't work out which website belongs to which hostel at the moment, but you get the idea...)

If I have any other good ideas I'll let you know.

(By the way, if you live in Cardiff, it's the law to watch Torchwood Smile )
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11643 is a reply to message #11642 ] Tue, 01 December 2009 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah - just remembered that there's also an Etap - not far from city centre. I've just checked their websites and they currently have £37 rooms for every weekend in Feb except Rugby Day on the 13th when they're sold out.

V. small rooms there usually, but adequate.

There's also accommodation within the Urdd centre at the Millennium Centre in Cardiff Bay (the Urdd is the weird Welsh youth cultural org.) http://www.urdd.org/caerdydd/index.php?lng=en They might be able to give you a group booking.

Cardiff University also has guest rooms. The choice is more limited during term-time, but might be worth a look, contact on: 029 2087 5117

That's all I can think of!
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11644 is a reply to message #11643 ] Tue, 01 December 2009 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

Etap sounds good Cute Smile

I searched for the offers on the Travelodge site and they do seem to have lots of £19 during the week, just not on Saturday nights in February Cute Smile

I looked at the Riverside Backpackers website and they have a minimum stay of two nights at weekends, so it would be a good choice if anyone is planning to come down on the Friday night, but otherwise probably not suitable.

Am starting to get excited now Cute Smile Will email round a few regular JEB members tonight and try to agree a date asap so that people can book accommodation and tickets as cheaply as possible!

PS. Do they replay Torchwood on any channel? I feel like we ought to watch a token episode if it's that important!!


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11645 is a reply to message #11617 ] Wed, 02 December 2009 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A cautionary word re Torchwood. I watched most of the first series, and quite early in the first episode, there was a shocking scene that made me feel faint, from which I had to look away. So, if you're squeamish, you might want to skip that one.

I think I'll recommend the "Cyberwoman" episode, if only for the novelty of an explicity female version of a Cyberman.

(And if you're into "universal love", you'll like Torchwood, because if I remember rightly, everyone has sex with everyone else.)
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11646 is a reply to message #11645 ] Wed, 02 December 2009 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

kalvupo wrote on Wed, 02 December 2009 12:28
A cautionary word re Torchwood. I watched most of the first series, and quite early in the first episode, there was a shocking scene that made me feel faint, from which I had to look away. So, if you're squeamish, you might want to skip that one.


Okay, I'm highly squeamish so perhaps I don't want to watch it after all!

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(And if you're into "universal love", you'll like Torchwood, because if I remember rightly, everyone has sex with everyone else.)


What makes you think I'm into "universal love"?! Shocked


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11647 is a reply to message #11646 ] Wed, 02 December 2009 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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First series was finding it's feet, but the second series was awesome.


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11648 is a reply to message #11646 ] Wed, 02 December 2009 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Grr, in that case I got my viewing the wrong way round...

Radio~! wrote on Wed, 02 December 2009 12:38

What makes you think I'm into "universal love"?! Shocked

Sorry Rad, by "you" I meant "one", not you personally.
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11649 is a reply to message #11648 ] Thu, 03 December 2009 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

I hope no one minds but I've invited Harry Barron as well, on the grounds that he's Welsh and an ex-JEBano Cute Smile It is a fair distance from the unpronouncable place where he lives to Cardiff but he says he does the journey from time to time as he has family there, so may come along, dependent on date.

On which note, shall we choose a date and have done with it???

I apologise incidentally to anyone who feels like Cardiff is too far for them to travel. We do try to make JEB meetings as inclusive as possible but it stands to reason that not every meeting will suit everyone.

Bear in mind that JEB will hopefully be meeting in large numbers at the BK in Llandudno in May, and that around that sort of time we are also going to arrange another theme park trip, which we will try to make as convenient and accessible to everyone as we can. If anyone has any other ideas for meetings, large or small, please let me know Cute Smile


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11662 is a reply to message #11617 ] Mon, 07 December 2009 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Saluton gekaraj! Mi kredis ke mi jam skribis mesaĝon hodiaŭ

matene, sed ŝajne mi iel fuŝis kaj ĝi ne aperis. Ne gravas.

Nu, mi volis diri ke mi ja ŝategus vin ĉiujn renkonti Kardife Cute Smile

Nature dependos de vetureblecoj kaj de mono. Tamen, estante

studento, mi espereble povos liberigi ajnan semajnfinon Febuare
Cute Smile.
Ŝategus mi la okazon paroli nian belan lingvon kaj renkontiĝi

denove kun la mojosa JEBanaro!


Ŝajnas ke estos kelkaj diskutoj varmegemociaj pri lingvoj LOL

Mi vere ne devus taksi monon kiel kialon, ne iri, post la

pasinta kunveno eksciinte, ke mi neniun monon havis (kiel diri

overdraft esperante ... LOL ) kaj dum la dua trimonato de

universitato, mi havos pli da mono ol dum la unua. Do, espereble

venos mi, la Ĝejko.


Mi ne pensas ke mi kapablas/ devus partopreni en la supra

debato, do mi diros 'la homaro estas la mezuro de ĉiuj aferoj,

kaj diversaj homoj havas diversajn mezurilojn'.

Do, mi espereble antaŭĝojas babili kun vi en Kardifo kaj

antaŭe pardonpetas pro malbelaj lingvaj eraroj en ĉi tiu

teksto.
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11668 is a reply to message #11617 ] Tue, 08 December 2009 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

This is all very interesting but it's taking us a long way away from the most important question, which is "which weekend are we going to meet up?"

On the grounds that if some of us are booking accommodation it's probably best to avoid the Saturdays of the rugby games (13th, 26th) and Tim and I have a prior committment on the 21st, I propose Saturday 6th February.

Are there any objections? Cute Smile


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11669 is a reply to message #11668 ] Tue, 08 December 2009 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Radio~! wrote on Tue, 08 December 2009 12:09

This is all very interesting but it's taking us a long way away from the most important question, which is "which weekend are we going to meet up?"

Heh, tactful Wink & Smile

To be fair, we have Esper-Britted this thread a little bit. I hope the new people don't think we're EB's reincarnation, and flee Sad

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Are there any objections? Cute Smile

Not from me Cute Smile
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11670 is a reply to message #11617 ] Tue, 08 December 2009 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ofte mi pensas ke mi devus komputili malplie, por iri eksteren kaj vere vivi, sed kiam mi tion faras, mi maltrafas grandegan fadenon pri renkontiĝo ĉe mia hejmurbo! Haha.
Iukaze, ŝajnas ke mi vin ĉiujn vidos je la ses-a de Februaro (kiu estas du tagoj antaŭ mia naskiĝtagon. Donaĵoj ne bezonataj tngwnk ). Mi ne povas aldoni multe al tio, kiun jam diris, tamen mi havas plian proponon pri gastloĝejoj. La "Park Plaza" gastloĝejo estas kutime iom multekosta, sed ofte ĝi havas malmultekostajn ĉambrojn, kiuj troviĝas per retejoj kiel "lastminute.com". Ĝi estas tre centra, tre agrabla hotelo.
La kimra lingvo sonas al mi kiel pli bela Germana. Estas multe de malsamaj Kimraj akcentoj, pro la transloĝantoj, kiuj ekloĝis ĉi-tie estintece.

Kvankam mi kreskiĝis ĉe Kimrujo, mi apenaŭ komprenas la lingvon (ne estas bezonata por ĉiuj, krom por iaj laboroj), sed mi konas kiel prononci ĝin!

Do, jen mia Kimra - Esperanta prononc-gvidilo:

Ll - Ĥl
Dd - Kiel la angla "th". Kiel oni skribus tiun esperante?
Rh - Hr
Ch - Ĥĥ
W - U
F - V
Y - Kiel la angla "uh". Denove, mi ne certas kiel oni skribas tiun Esperante.
Ff - F
U - I
Do, oni dirus "Llandudno" kiel "Ĥlandidno". Simple, ne? Haha.
Ĝis venont-jare, gemojosuloj!

Rob (iom Angla, iom Kimra, iom Esperanta)
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11678 is a reply to message #11670 ] Wed, 09 December 2009 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

Okay, cool: as there have been no objections, Saturday 6th February is officially the date of the meeting Cute Smile

I will email around the membership and/or put a post on the JEBsite this evening. If I have time, as this is second in priority to decorating my Christmas tree tong

Dankon pro la konsiloj pri kimra prononcado, Rob Cute Smile

Al la ĝenerala diskuto pri la kimra lingvo kaj ĉu indas ĝin lerni, mi volas aldoni ke, pro tio ke ni ĉiam feriumis en norda kimrio kiam mi estis infano, mia patro iam eklernis la kimran kaj progresis ĝis sufiĉe bona nivelo, je kiu li povis legi simplajn librojn. Li ne tre ofte havis la eblon uzi sian lingvoscion, sed kelkfoje tio ja utilas. Homoj kiuj klare malŝatas anglojn ofte fariĝis malpli malĝentilaj post kelkaj vortoj en la kimra.

Sed se ni intencas pludiskuti ĉi tiun temon, mi vere kredas ke ĝi bezonas sian propran fadenon, por ke ĉi tiu fadeno temu nur pri demandoj kaj informoj pri la venonta renkontiĝo.


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11679 is a reply to message #11678 ] Thu, 10 December 2009 08:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Antagonistic & Scathing"

Okay, I've now emailed everyone in my membership database and created an event on Facebook, so hopefully that's informed everyone who needs to know.

Veronika has got in touch to say that she intends to come Cute Smile Sam has got in touch to say he can't because he'll be transporting 11,000 bananas back from the Carribean Shocked Gavan has also replied to say he has something on that weekend Sad


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11680 is a reply to message #11670 ] Thu, 10 December 2009 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Skribis aĉaĵojn en la retpaĝoj de JEB
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Haŭkins wrote on Tue, 08 December 2009 13:21

Dd - Kiel la angla "th". Kiel oni skribus tiun esperante?

Oni nur povas diri "la angla 'th'".

Fonetike, temas pri aŭ þ (thorn, as in the) aŭ ð (eth, as in thick).

Quote:

Ch - Ĥĥ


Sendube tio gajnas la premion por plej malbela sono! Cute Smile

Quote:

Y - Kiel la angla "uh". Denove, mi ne certas kiel oni skribas tiun Esperante.


Denove, vi jam faras Cute Smile Devas esti iu fonetika simbolo, sed kiun mi ne scias.

Quote:

F - V
Ff - F


Kiu bone klarigas kial ĵurnalistoj kiuj primokis la literumadon de la nomo de Ffion Jenkins (edzino de William Hague) tiel stultas.

Dankon pro la helpgvido, Rob Thumbs Up
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11681 is a reply to message #11617 ] Thu, 10 December 2009 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've split this thread to keep all the relevant content here.

The chat about the Welsh language and whether Bobby was unfair in what he said is now here.
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11683 is a reply to message #11680 ] Thu, 10 December 2009 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Talking about thorn, that's where "ye" comes from. The lower case handwritten thorn looked a bit like a y so it was still pronounced "the" but looked like "ye".


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11684 is a reply to message #11617 ] Thu, 10 December 2009 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ye in the sense of "Ye olde England", yup. (There was another ye which eventually gave way to its own object form you.)

I love trivia like this Cute Smile
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11761 is a reply to message #11684 ] Wed, 16 December 2009 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As in God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen and what not.


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It is better to light a candle, than curse the darkness - Eleanor Roosevelt.
Estas pli bone ekbruligi kandelon, ol malbeni la tenebron.
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11808 is a reply to message #11617 ] Tue, 29 December 2009 04:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mi rezervis miajn vojaĝbiletojn jam nun, dum ili kostas na £11.50 unudirekte :D

Mi venos al la Kardifa Centra stacio sabate je 0955 k foriros el la sama loko dimanĉe je 1859.

Ankaŭ, thetrainline.com proponas al mi tuttagan busan vojaĝadon tra la tuta Kardifo (tn. Busplus) kontraŭ nur £2.50 malpo tago.

Bone aranĝite, mi pensas. Ĉi-nokte mi kontentas pri mi mem Cute Smile


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Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11810 is a reply to message #11808 ] Thu, 31 December 2009 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mi kaj Paul mendis biletojn por la samaj trajnoj kiel Marteno. Espere ni povos kunsidi.
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11811 is a reply to message #11617 ] Thu, 31 December 2009 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kion vi ĉiuj volas fari en Kardifo? Ĉu vi volas koni kien bonas por renkontiĝi matene/tagmeze?

Mi neniam antaǔe ĉeestis JEB renkontiĝon. Ĉu JEBanoj kutime nur trikas ĉe renkontiĝoj, aǔ ni spektu la vidindejojn ankaǔ? Mi sentas min devigate helpi, ĉar mi loĝas Kardife!
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11812 is a reply to message #11811 ] Fri, 01 January 2010 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you have to sign up anywhere if you want to be part of this meetup? or do you just turn up?
Re: JEB Spring Meet-up 2010 [message #11816 is a reply to message #11810 ] Sat, 02 January 2010 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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bpeel wrote on Thu, 31 December 2009 12:16

Mi kaj Paul mendis biletojn por la samaj trajnoj kiel Marteno. Espere ni povos kunsidi.


Bonege Cute Smile Se ankaŭ Magnus, Saŝa kaj Karlos (nova ulo veninta antaŭnelonge) kuniros (je kio mi tre esperas), eble nia LEJO-kunsido eĉ estos kvoruma (bv. kontroli en la Statuto) LOL

Serioze: laŭ la konfirmilo miaj vagono estas B kaj seĝo 80. Sed mi ja pretos trairi la tutan trajnon por trovi vin!

Haŭkins:

Kion vi ĉiuj volas fari en Kardifo? Ĉu vi volas koni kien bonas por renkontiĝi matene/tagmeze?

Mi neniam antaǔe ĉeestis JEB renkontiĝon. Ĉu JEBanoj kutime nur trikas ĉe renkontiĝoj, aǔ ni spektu la vidindejojn ankaǔ? Mi sentas min devigate helpi, ĉar mi loĝas Kardife!


Kutime ni iom longe sidas en la drinkejo/manĝejo, kaj precipe tagmanĝas (ĉar homoj ekvenas antaŭ aŭ ĉirkaŭ la tagmezo) -- sed triki mi ankoraŭ neniun vidis Wink & Smile

Ĉar homoj venados malsamtempe, estos oportune renkontiĝi en iu drinkejo/manĝejo. Tio ofte estas Wetherspoons, sed ne nepre devas esti. Via konsilo estas tre bonvena!

Post la tagmanĝo, estos tre interese vidi lokajn vidindaĵojn, ĉar ekz. por mi estos la unua vizito al Kardifo (kaj fakte entute al Kimrujo)! Ni jam renkontiĝis en lokoj kie estis neniuj lokuloj, sed havi helpon de lokuloj ja estas multe pli bone kaj donas al la renkontiĝo, por diri tiel, tute alian dimension Cute Smile

amelia:

Do you have to sign up anywhere if you want to be part of this meetup? or do you just turn up?


You definitely can just turn up, although it is a good idea to say when about, so that we have an idea about how many people are coming and when to expect you.

Be sure to follow this thread as the exact meeting point is yet to be arranged. Welcome Cute Smile


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